Marriage in Thailand-Customs and Ceremonies

The bride and groom pray together at a Thai weddingMarriage in Thailand can involve following various customs and traditions along with two different wedding ceremonies.

Traditional Thai brides and their families may well want to follow the local customs of Thong Mun and Sin Sod before or during the actual marriage ceremony.

Tong Mun literally means “gold engagement” and is the equivalent to the Western custom of giving your bride to be an engagement ring.  But instead of a ring in Thailand the engagement gift given to ones prospective partner is 24 carat gold jewellery which of course could include an engagement ring if you so desired. Sometimes the gold gifts are delivered at a betrothal ceremony, where the groom is introduced to the family and promises them that he will take care of their daughter. If all goes well the couple are considered “engaged to be married” at the end of the ceremony.

Sin Sod on the other hand is what might be called a dowry or bride price by a Westerner although this is not the interpretation a Thai person would offer. Thai custom sees Sin Sod as a way of compensating the family for the loss of their daughter  who they have cared for from birth and who on marriage will no longer contribute to the family wealth.  It also provides an opportunity for the groom to demonstrate his ability to care for the families daughter.

The actual amount of the Sin Sod is negotiated between the bride and bridegrooms families quite often through a third party. It might be in the region of 100,000 Baht  for a middle class Thai family.

Although the payment of  Sin Sod*  is fairly common it is also just as common for the money to be returned in some way to the couple when they are married. This might be in the form of a parcel of land to build a new home on for example.

Sometimes the Sin Sod ceremony is completed at the actual wedding ceremony, usually after the religious part has been completed.

The groom and his family arrive at a Thai weddingThe traditional wedding ceremony(religious and custom) itself is usually conducted at the brides home with the bridegroom and his family arriving in a noisy colourful party at the appointed time. This time is often quite early and may seem odd in that it will be calculated to be a “lucky time”, for example a wedding I attended started at 7.09am with the seven and nine being lucky numbers.

Here are a few snippets and observations that I recorded at the same ceremony:

“As the time approached the bridegroom and his supporters moved nearer. Then both families engaged in a what might have seemed to a non Thai like a shouting competition, very good humoured and lots of smiles. Basically the bridegrooms family were saying they would like to come in and the brides family were responding by asking if they had the means (the sin sod) for the brides family.”

“Clearly they had the Sin Sod because after a short while the head of each family met and the groom was invited to entry the brides home. In order to do this he had to pass through several virtual doorways which consisted of Thai girls hold gold braid in the grooms path. Before being allowed to pass through the doorways he had to offer the girls some money…….”

There ten followed a religious ceremony where the couple sat in front of the Buddhist monks in the living room while the monks chanted for about half an hour.  After the monks had eaten they were presented with gifts and left the house after blessing the couple.

A plate containg sin sod payment at thai weddingThis signalled the start of the Sin Sod ceremony which in this case was combined with the wedding.

With the immediate family gathered around them the groom offered gold to his bride, taking each piece and placing it around her neck or on her wrist. At the same time a plate containing around 50,000 Baht was also offered to the parents of the bride by the father of the bridegroom.

ritual water pouring at Thai weddingThe final part of the Thai wedding and Sin Sod ceremony involved a ritual of pouring water on the hands of the couple by family and friends to bring them good luck. During the water pouring the couple were seated together and joined by a white thread to symbolise their union.

With the formal part of the wedding ceremony over the guests and newly weds enjoyed a wedding breakfast together followed by a reception in the evening.

Although the couple were officially married in the eyes of family and friends such ceremonies are not legally binding.  To make them so a short civil ceremony at the local Amphur office is required.  See Getting Married in Thailand.

Footnote:

*Westerners might like to note that traditional Thais would never ask for Tong Mun or Sin Sod, it is not expected, but if it is offered it is greatly appreciated especially if the family is not wealthy or have strong family values.

True Sin Sod is not about money, its a gesture, a Thai tradition, that demonstrates commitment to your bride and your new family.

That said it is also important for the family and their standing within the community and failure to offer Sin Sod could cause them and your future bride a considerable loss of face. Not the best way to start married life in the Land of Smiles!

In Thailand wedding presents usually consist of money. With each guest/party handing over an envelop containing a gift which is often used to help pay for the festivities.

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  • http://paulgarrigan.com/ Paul Garrigan

    Great stuff Mike, I’m glad that you mention that Sin Sod should be considered a gift. I think many westerners get confused by this – maybe even misled. I think it is understandable that families like to show off how much they were given for their daughter – as you mention it is common for this money to be returned afterwards.

    • http://www.thailand-blogs.com Mike

      Paul I think its important to show that some of the horror stories one reads on TV and the like are not about true Sin Sod but more about greed.

      Perhaps there are some correspondents out there with Thai wife’s who can give their views including their own experiences?

  • http://paulgarrigan.com/ Paul Garrigan

    Great stuff Mike, I’m glad that you mention that Sin Sod should be considered a gift. I think many westerners get confused by this – maybe even misled. I think it is understandable that families like to show off how much they were given for their daughter – as you mention it is common for this money to be returned afterwards.

  • http://ricks-eastasiablog.typepad.com/ricks_east_asia_blog/2010/09/learn-to-love-the-illusion-in-thailand.html SiamRick

    Great post, Mike. Nice description of the entire ceremony and other traditions, such as money and gold giving and what they mean in the culture and for the family. Nicely balanced and very informative. Too many times we get rather off kilter statements that portray the family as grossly greedy. While this can happen and the signs are obvious, weddings involve these gifts because the family wants to look good in the community. It’s their culture that demands it.

    • http://www.thailand-blogs.com Mike

      Thanks Rick you’re very kind. Although the wedding I featured was between two Thais(school teachers) it was a very traditional affair. I would love to hear some foreigners experiences with their Thai other half’s or indeed some Ladies who have married Thai men…….wonder if the process is the same?

  • http://www.danploy.com/diary.htm DanPloy

    A really nice balanced article Mike.

    We got married in the UK so I don’t have personal experience of a Thai wedding and Ploy’s parents were both long dead so I also haven’t had to address the Sin Sot issue.

    However I have experienced a Thai wedding which closely followed your experience. Photos are here, http://www.danploy.com/thailand_p1.htm#The%20Wedding%20Party and the write up is here, http://www.danploy.com/diary_archive_13.htm#The%20Wedding%20Party.

    Please feel free to delete those links if you feel they are irrelevant.

    • http://www.thailand-blogs.com Mike

      Dan having read quite a bit of your site already I sort of figured out you and Ploy didn’t do the Thai thing. I also read the article on the wedding which made me smile. The links are fine since it might mean a few of my readers find your excellent “diary.”

      You shattered my illusions a bit today though with your admissions about your Thai language skills :-)

  • Lloyd

    Thats pretty much how my wedding unfolded although I think we started at 06:50 as the monks said this was the best time. I was the only English speaking person there but really enjoyed it and would not have had it any other way, everyone was great and the food was incredible with more than 300 friends and family attending from Thailand and Loa there was a mix of food I have not seen anywhere since.

    One thing you didn’t mention is the money and gifts that are given to the bride and groom at the end of the ceremoney, when the guest tie the white string, blessed by the monks, around the bride or grooms wrists. We received more than 80,000 Baht which we donated to the local primary school, even people who lived as sustenance farmers gave something, this I had not heard much about but it is very common and every Thai wedding I have been to has been the same.

    Your comment at the end is somewhat misleading as “Sin Sodt” or similar traditions are very common in ethnic migrant Chinese communities and are found throughout the world where Chinese immigrants settled, it is also common amongst many African cultures.

    So many people, especially middle aged expats, get caught up in the Sin Sodt and listen to all sorts of wild and imaginitive stories about paying huge sums of money and giving enough gold to start a jewelry store. I never really thought about it, I guess because I have always trusted my wife and she has never asked for anything that I would consider “out of hand”, the amount my wife asked for was relative to what she knew I could afford.

    • http://www.thailand-blogs.com Mike

      Lloyd thanks for sharing that. I should have mentioned the gifts, in fact I will add a small paragraph, thank you for reminding me. At the wedding I used as an example the gifts(delivered in an envelop) were given as the couple welcomed guests to the evening reception.

      I have also done/seen the money giving at other functions like at the party on the night before a monks ordination. My “sister in law” got around 60,000 Baht when her son joined the local temple, the bash cost about 120,000!

  • http://apostcardaday.blogspot.com Sheila

    This post has made me wonder in how many countries there is a split between the civil and religious services, with the civil one being the legal necessity. I realise I really don’t know, apart from in France where a civil service is obligatory.

    • http://www.thailand-blogs.com Mike

      Sheila, quite a good question I think. Didn’t realise France fell into that category too. So a church wedding is not legally recognised?

  • http://www.thaisabai.org Martyn

    Mike thanks for the walk through on Thai wedding ceremonies, we did everything but kiss the bride. I’ve attended a few traditional weddings in Thailand, they were Thai marrying Thai, and I’ve always been impressed with the whole thing. It always amazed me where the money came from for such lavish do’s and your post goes some way to explaining how.

    I did attend a registry office wedding last Christmas in Khon Kaen when one of my mates got married to his Thai girl. The wedding was a simple “wham bam thank you mam and don’t kiss the bride in here” ten minute affair. The traditional wedding would appeal much more to me.

    Out of interest, do Thai couples to be have stag nights and hen do’s like we do in the UK.

    • http://www.thailand-blogs.com Mike

      Martyn as with many things in Thailand there is a fair bit of face involved in any Thai celebration the family is organising so things have to be as lavish as possible which might include a visit to the local loan shark with the hope that the “contributions” guests make foot the bill.

      Of course this is not always the case or necessarily the norm(see Lloyd’s comment).

      Good question about stag and hen parties I don’t know the answer, but I do know that young men going to be monks have a bash the night before. I have attended one such even which was a mix of religious and drunken activity(this part reminded me of a stage do).

  • http://villagefarang.blogspot.com Villagefarang

    When I finally got around to settling down after living a single life in Thailand for more than twenty years, I broke all the rules. Some feel the only way to show understanding of the rules is to follow them. To do as others do. Being a contrarian, I used my knowledge to find my own path.

    Unable to reconcile my wife’s rural roots with our very city life and friends, we opted to elope and merely fulfill the legal necessities without any ceremony. As I recall we informed friends, and our separate families, after the fact. That was eleven years ago.

    I often see relative newcomers, frantically entering into negotiations with the parents and family of women they hardly know. They seem in such a rush to get to some imagined goal post. Rituals and ceremonies are fine, if that is one’s thing, but a firm grasp of the realities of life in Thailand will serve one better in the long run.

    Getting married first and figuring things out later, seems an odd way to go about things to me. My advise is always to take your time and develop your own relationship with Thailand before choosing a partner. If you can flourish here on your own, then you will have more to offer a potential mate, if you plan to live here.

    Living with a Thai partner overseas is of course an entirely different kind of undertaking but even then a greater understanding of where she comes from can’t hurt.

    I know this is a bit off topic and has nothing to do with wedding ceremonies but I hope this shows there are those, like me, who have found alternative paths to happiness, in the land of smiles. While cross-cultural relationships can be wonderfully rich and fulfilling, they are also fraught with danger and pitfalls for those who are ill prepared.

    Have the wedding and the life you want, Thai or whatever, and not the one you feel obligated to have. I am proof that it can be done.

    • http://www.thailand-blogs.com Mike

      VF off topic or not I think readers will enjoy reading your experiences. Personally, I usually find with your contributions that there are a few hidden gems in there. The longer I live here the more I agree with: “take your time and develop your own relationship with Thailand before choosing a partner. If you can flourish here on your own, then you will have more to offer a potential mate, if you plan to live here.”
      Not exactly how it happened for me but I have a good Thai partner who has helped me adjust.

  • Phil B

    My wife and I were married in Thailand nearly 30 years ago. Simply went to local office to register the marriage.

    Her family are ‘Thai/Chinese’ small business and professional people in Bkk. My wife had lived in UK for a couple of years after completing university and her younger brother had attended uni in the USA so the family had some exposure to farang, although limited. When I asked about a wedding ceremony my wife just said not necessary and she was simply not interested. As I have learned over the past 3 decades, she means what she says, and I do what I am told !!

    For better or worse I had not heard of sin sod; my wife never mentioned it; and nor did her family then and never has since. I do know however that sin sod has been paid and received when her brothers and sisters were married, so I assume in our case, they simply were gracious and accepting of a farang’s lack of knowledge. I did pay for my wife’s rings of course and paid for a banquet for the whole (large) family. To my amusement and delight however, my new family then negotiated the restaurant bill down considerably.

    One thing that I have always found a bit difficult to understand, but nonetheless interesting, is that when it comes to gifts, particularly for MIL, she is only interested in money and occasionally jewellery. She has been very generous in giving us money over the years and we in turn give her gifts of money. I have offered other options but she is not interested. She certainly doesn’t need it and I guess we don’t either now so I am a bit puzzled as to why this seems the ‘done thing’. A bit strange for we ‘westerners’.

    • http://www.thailand-blogs.com Mike

      Phil, my apologies I somehow missed this reply. Great insight and thanks for sharing since it puts a different light on what a lot of Westerners assume.

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