English Second Language Thailand

In the last week I have found myself writing about English(language) in Thailand and Teaching English as a foreign language in Thailand-TEFL in Thailand. In the first article I questioned the use of English in Thailand and posed some questions about the use of English as a second language here.

Well I don’t know whether the Thai Prime Minister or the Thai Ministry of Education read my blog but low and behold on Thursday this week we get an announcement reported in the Bangkok Post that says the Ministry of Education is set to announce plans for making English the official second language of Thailand(around 22 October).

“The Education Ministry plans to declare English the second language for teaching and learning in schools with an aim to enable Thai people of the new generation to communicate with other people in Asean and world communities in English, Chinaworn Boonyakiat said on Thursday.”

An excellent move in my opinion and certainly mirroring the sentiment I expressed in my article. The Minister went on to say:

……..in order to successfully carry out the plan it is necessary to have foreign teachers from countries using English as the mother language for all schools for Mathayom 4-6 level (Grades 10-12).

Schools for Mathayom 1-3 level (Grade 7-9) should at least have Thai teachers majoring in English.

Elementary schools should also have more English teachers, he said.

“After having enough foreign teachers and Thai teachers majoring in English, schools will then be able to arrange an English programme,” he said.

Ah, I thought things were going to well. Now if I was the PM, don’t forget he is Oxford educated and speaks perfect English, I might ask Mr Chinaworn(is that really how his name is transliterated) a couple of questions along the following lines:

  • What are the thousands of native English teachers we employ doing  at the moment?
  • Why do we currently employ teachers to teach English from counties where it is not the mother tongue?
  • Have you ever had a conversation in English with a Thai teacher majoring in English?

When asked how the Ministry of Education would staff and fund the initiative to make English Thailand’s second language his reply included reference to an increased budget and the inclusion of the Foreign Ministry in the recruitment process, he then added:

“We have eyed American teachers who are retired under an early retirement programme,” he said.

Now hang on a minute surely this is going to far, with the greatest respect to my American cousins, their version of English is a bit different to mine, hasn’t anyone mentioned that they only started speaking it a couple of hundred years ago :-)   Mind you I did read an interesting piece the other day that suggested we Brits actually spoke with what would be called an American accent nowadays, back in days of yore. That we have in fact changed our accent and words, not the other way round. Mind you it was written by an American professor.

However lest you get the impression I am not too impressed with the announcement can I just say in my defence that I am trying to make Thai my second language.  My efforts to date are probably at about the same level as that of English spoken by most of my hosts.  Guess pronunciation is the key.

However I can easily order fried rice and be understood, so perhaps future generations of Thais will be able to repeat back my order in English….you know how it goes…..”fried lice sir?”

Then again given the potential for an increase in the use of American English perhaps it won’t be too long before the eateries of Bangkok are ringing with the classic “Hi I’m Nancy and I will be your waitress tonight.” How might I serve you hon?

Finally can I apologise to my US readers, you know I love the way you talk ;-)

Related posts:

  1. English in Thailand
  2. Thailand Compulsory Language Test?
  3. TEFL Thailand
  4. Thai Proverbs and Sayings
  5. Happy Birthday in Thailand
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  • http://paulgarrigan.com/ Paul Garrigan

    Hi Mike, one of the problems in Thailand is defining what is meant by a native speaker. There are many Filipinos who claim that they should be considered native speakers because English is an official language there. Some Filipinos can speak excellent English but others can’t so what is a native speaker? Will this mean that Thai people can now claim to be native English speakers if it is made an official language here? It would certainly ensure that there would be no shortage of native English speakers in the future. Irish is an official language in Ireland but only a tiny minority can actually speak it fluently so what does making something an official language accomplish?

    • http://www.thailand-blogs.com Mike

      I think the Philippines is different, since I believe English is a Lingua Franca as opposed to a second language. Many Filipinos do indeed speak excellent English. Not as heavily accented as some too.Officially a native speaker of English comes from the UK(and Eire) as well as the old Dominions and the USA.I think the main thrust by the Thai government is to improve the International image of the country particularly from a business perspective.

      • http://paulgarrigan.com/ Paul Garrigan

        It could be a good idea if it encourages more people to learn English. I think it would need to be backed by changes to the education system for it to be really effective. I found it hard to convince Thai students that there was a need to learn English; to be honest I could see their point a lot of the time.

        • http://www.thailand-blogs.com Mike

          Paul, I think under the current PM we may well see similar initiatives that might well start to change the education system. Critical thinking and problem solving unfortunately don’t seem to fit in with the current Thai culture but who know about the future.I know from personal experience that it took a long time to change from Chalk & Talk to a more modern approach in the UK thanks in the main to the likes of Carl Rogers and his learning cycle.

    • http://www.jonathan-russell.com/ Jon

      Agree with Paul on this — the announcement is all well and good but the success is down to the quality of teachers. At the moment, I would say it is hit and miss…with some teachers not speaking English as a first language and other native speakers simply holding a TEFL and having no idea how to teach.

      If Thailand had the money to recruit trained teachers from abroad, this would surely make a big difference. But the cost of doing so is prohibitive. I do think the country needs to do more to vet its English teachers.

  • Snap

    Hi Mike, I am following the Thai TEFL circuit at the moment. My husband is due to start his in a few weeks in Chiang Mai and we, or I should say, I am wondering about the whole BA thing!

    “their version of English is a bit different to mine” – I couldn’t agree more (I’m Australian) but even funnier was watching an English show called Deadliest Catch (about commercial fishing) and the accents were so severe that subtitles were necessary. (no disrespect to the English and Americans :)

    • http://www.thailand-blogs.com Mike

      Snap, do you mean you are thinking of a TEFL degree or the need for a BA/first degree to teach here?Funny you should mention Deadliest Catch, I know its a bit tongue in cheek, but I quite enjoy it. That said half the time I haven’t a clue what they are saying, better with the THAI sub-titles :-) Dying to know what’s happened to Captain Phil(sad really….me and his demise).

      • Snap

        Hi Mike…not me with the TEFL but my husband. He has no BA, but will do his TEFL. With the talk of needing a BA to teach English in Thailand, we’re not sure about his chances of getting work. The UK/US company he booked it through, sends emails with subject lines like ‘teaching without a BA is illegal, but so is prostitution’….Charming!!!!

        We’ve also read that teaching ‘under the table’ is possible. Of course, if all hits the fan, he is happy to volunteer. We are not moving to Thailand (yet) we will be on a one year long stay. I will be learning Thai…but that’s a different saga!

        • http://www.thailand-blogs.com Mike

          Snap, there is work for non-BA but I fancy its in the grey market e.g. private language schools, I personally wouldn’t do it, but its a personal thing. You made me smile about prostitution(TIT).

          Actually working as a legal volunteer is not a bad idea(need O visa) I did a post about voluntary work recently.

          Best advice is don’t blot your Thai copybook on a year stay, keep it legal and enjoy LOS. Lots of folk however will tell you differently including some potential employers and providers of TEFL courses(see another post).

          • Snap

            Thanks for your advice Mike. Please visit our blog from time to time http://www.strayandsnap.blogspot.com , I’ve put you on our Blogga log and have a link to my other blog about (attempting) to learn Thai in Chiang Mai. We leave next week!!!!!

            PS. We will keep our noses clean and BTW, your ‘follow up comments by email notification’ thingy is not working.

          • http://www.thailand-blogs.com Mike

            Snap, thanks for the link. I will do the same for you and come and join the conversation at your place. Thanks for the heads up on the email thing, works for me but I am logged in to Disqus….check it out AM.

            Safe journey and have fun. Look forward to reading about things.

  • http://www.thailand-blogs.com Mike

    Basilseven, great to get your perspective on this one. I hope that the move will have a positive effect for Thailand. It may take time but I am sure there are long term benefits.